The crowdmapping plattform Ushahidi has become quite well-known after its application in the aftermath of the Haiti earthquake. Ushahidi software is now used allover the world. Erik Hersman, left, co-founded the project and is currently its Director of Operations. Ken Banks on the other side of the table invented FrontlineSMS, a bulk-messaging tool for texting with mobiles. He heavily disagrees with Erik on who first started the revolution. Despite this ongoing conflict, @whiteafrican and @kiwanja got together at ICTD2010 to talk about innovation in information and communication technologies and development. I recorded what they said about research on ICTD, „practicioners“ vs. academics, and ideas born in distant bedrooms.